{"id":9522,"date":"2016-12-12T20:30:36","date_gmt":"2016-12-12T20:30:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2016\/12\/12\/mr-pips-m-sun-trip-report-11232016-11252016\/"},"modified":"2016-12-12T20:30:36","modified_gmt":"2016-12-12T20:30:36","slug":"mr-pips-m-sun-trip-report-11232016-11252016","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/crapsclub.goldentouchserver.com\/index.php\/2016\/12\/12\/mr-pips-m-sun-trip-report-11232016-11252016\/","title":{"rendered":"Mr. PiP's M-Sun \u2013 Trip Report (11\/23\/2016 \u2013 11\/25\/2016)"},"content":{"rendered":"


\nM-Sun \u2013 Trip Report (11\/23\/2016 \u2013 11\/25\/2016) by Mr. PiP
\n\tObjective: <\/strong>
\n\t To experience the live play environment at M-Sun\u2019s three Casinos (Groud, Fly and Breeze). Use the 5 count and get a feel of the physical aspects of the tables, the behavior of the pit crew and players and report any observations for a future visit. Trip Bank Roll for Expenses and betting: $800. Bet Spread Plan would be Buy-in of $300 and take 1X odds on Pass Line (Snow Cap the PL and Dealers on the Line bit) and place 6 & 8 (hit \u2013keep, hit-keep, hit- press split, Additional Hits-press one $6 unit each 6\/8 and keep difference until Big Red shows its ugly face)
\n\tCurrent DC Skill Background:<\/strong>
\n\t My handle is \u201cMr. Pit<\/strong>\u201d and I am a primer student October 2016, practicing every day, average 100 rolls. Below is my throw log and stats. Nothing really to brag about other than my 32 no sevens long practice roll and that I am actually recording every throw and creating useful metrics around it. (See link below)
\n\thttps:\/\/docs.google.com\/spreadsheets\/d\/ … 1155939994<\/a><\/p>\n

\tCasino Overview: <\/strong>
\n\t\u2022\tGeneral: <\/strong> M-Sun has a complex physical layout that I seem to get lost trying to get from point A to point B. I thought it was me and my inner Christopher Columbus navigation system, until I asked directions from a security guard and she seemed quite confused on her own bearings.
\n\t\u2022\tGround: <\/strong> The Ground Casino is dark with dim lighting filled with wolf animations watching the casino players below. BTW (M-Sun means \u201cWolf\u201d ) and you can imagine who are the prey. There are two 12 foot long tables one with an old layout (No fire or hop bets) and the other with Hop and Fire bets. I played at both tables on day one. The tables do fill up quickly but slowly dwindle down after 1 am because they stop serving alcoholic beverages during the week after 1am So BYOB if you are looking for the B part in RFB. I played a couple of sessions with only a $117 gain. Remember I am playing extremely conservative. The pit crew was very nice and the players were well behaved, they appreciate the \u201cDealers on the line!\u201d $1 tip. Strangely I noticed a sign on the table \u201cHop Bets must be called before shooter has the dice\u201d Not sure why they needed a sign for this but they were very strict about it. Session gain, $117.
\n\t\u2022\tFly: <\/strong> On day two; The Fly Casino has the most tables approx. nine 14 foot tables laid out in a U shape pattern. Next day; Thanksgiving, I ran into a snag at the Fly casino, I was asked to leave, not at the craps table but at Johnny Rockets around 2:30am. Starving, my nephew and I ordered burgers at Johnny Rockets they were selling tons of burgers at this time, there was a long line and all the seating was taken but they only opened seating for only 10% of the restaurant and roped off 90% of the restaurant. I took it upon myself to remove the red retractable belt barrier and took the first small booth and sat down with my burger. The manager, enraged rushed over and yelled at me to get up and leave and if I cannot find a seat in the designated area, I needed to eat it outside. I explained it made no sense that I purchased your product and only make 10% of the seating available and that I would even clean the small booth I was sitting at. His point was that they were keeping the area clean for breakfast, I replied back: \u201cSo you mean to tell me, the breakfast customers are more important than the customers you have right now?\u201d, no-reply his face just had that non-compromising your SOL gaze. So after arguing for close to 7 min, I told him \u201cYou realize that the time it took for us to argue over this matter, I would of finished my burger, he was closed minded, he would not compromise, after I saw it escalating and my nephew quietly got up and left (The military has trained him to always maintain calm temperament) so I gave in and joined him on a bench outside the restaurant and we scarfed down our burgers. Still upset, I did a passive aggressive move; I neatly placed the refuge on one of the clean tables in the so called forbidden \u201cClean Area or the red zone\u201d. <\/p>\n

\tThen, I made a big mistake, I played at one of the Fly tables and my throws were way off, I played angry with the burger still not settled in my stomach and lost $72 dollars. Also, the pit boss was not feeling my throw style she moved me closer to SL2 because I was not allowed to have my arm cross the stick-man’s body, I felt totally lost. I paused and asked what would the Dom and the Masters do at this moment? , so I decided to cash in the remainder chips and get some rest and come back later, Session loss $72.<\/p>\n

\t10 hrs later I arrive back at the Fly casino, still a little angry I could not get on any of the tables, it was packed even the table min limits went to $15 and $25 they were all taken and the Breeze casino described below usually is closed Mon-Thurs and open late evening on Friday, so I went to the bar (Bobby Bs) to watch the football game (Cowboys vs. Redskins). It did feel kind of perverse, playing at an Indian Reservation Casino and watching the Cowboys vs. Redskins on Thanksgiving Day. So far it was me doing the giving. Remembering, I had played $60 in the office pool I checked my selected box numbers and noticed I won the $1000 Prize. This win turned my ill feelings around and I went back to my hotel to rest up for day 3.<\/p>\n

\tFriday, I checked out of my hotel, Holiday Inn Norwich I paid $207 to stay from Wed- Fri (1.8 miles from the Casino, gym, pool, bar and the room was large with a fridge and a microwave and coffee pot. Maybe this stuff is standard but I book in NYC and not use to it) Great staff and they offer shuttle service to the casino every \u00bd hr from 4pm-11pm, or asked them for the 24hr Taxi that charges a $12 flat rate. <\/p>\n

\tI arrived at M-Sun and went straight to the Fly Casino, determined to face my fears and weaknesses from the other night. While scouting the table I was studying the physical layout of an empty table and devised a plan to reach deeper in the middle so when I do my throw I would not be crossing my arms so close to the stickman and estimated my target landing zone would be just under the right side of the back wall underneath the straight chip rail. (Yes tippy toes will be needed on this strategy) On the layout there is a double line that I used to trace my dice across like a runway (I think it is the line that divides the Don\u2019t Pass and bottom of the Field bet box). Sure enough the table that I was scouting opened up. I talked with the young dealer; he told me the Breeze will resume normal hours soon since they hired 150 more new dealers. The new batches of dealers are from the older Millennial Generation and they seem less likely to give you a hard time. They have more of a \u201cIt is not my money, attitude\u201d. I opened up with $300 the guy next me $500, my plan was to try to survive long enough to throw the dice at least three times then leave on my throws and the C-Fers using the 5-count. The table filled up with loads of C-Fers my table was a complete hen house. Btw, its takes approximately 2hrs to hold the dice three times on a full table of C-Fers. Thank god for the 5 count. By the first round the guy next to me was buying in for another $100 and the players were getting knocked off one by one. The first two rolls were short but the third roll, it came together I had my middle table reach down packed and I rolled and rolled and rolled a long time\u2026 I do not know exactly how many rolls I did but I was like a robot doing exactly the same routine over and over again, my mind was in sort of a fog and I shut out all distractions and became a machine. When big red surfaced I woke up out of this trance and heard claps and cheers from the old timers at the other side of the table as if I just slayed a lion in the middle of a Gladiator Arena during the Roman era. Even though I was in my fog I did recall the casino experiencing a short intermitted brown out at the time I was throwing but I kept focus and did that mechanical motion over and over again. (Wonder if it was sign from the DC Gods) It was time to color out. I had met my objective, and the cheers and claps and the fist pound from the young dealer \u201cgreat roll!\u201d was what I wanted to experience on this trip. \u201cThere is hope for Mr. PiP\u201d I said to myself, despite some of my short comings during my practice sessions, the live play something seems to wake-up inside, Session gain $225. <\/p>\n

\t\u2022\tBreeze:<\/strong>
\n\tThe Breeze Casino is a smaller casino with approximately 5 Tables with what looks like Micro-Fiber. I noticed a higher reaction to the landing and the c-fers dice keep bouncing off the table. I am not sure with the grain or against grain, or padding or no padding. I am not an advance student but I did peek at some notes left around. As usual there was a friendly young dealer and she told me that a week ago from the date of this trip. The casino changed all of the felts at the Breeze Casino. I was going read the manufacture stamp but could not get close enough next time I will tell you. I threw 3 times broke even by the 2nd throw I had to land so close to the bottom lip of the back wall for some level of bounce control. By the third throw, I KO\u2019d on 7 rolls none of which was my point nor 6\/8. Session loss ($36). <\/p>\n

\t401(G) Activity Summary:<\/strong>
\n\t\u2022\tSession 1- Ground: $117
\n\t\u2022\tSession 2 -Fly: ($ 72)
\n\t\u2022\tSession 3 -Fly: $225
\n\t\u2022\tSession 4- Breeze: ( $36)
\n\t\u2022\tOffice Pool \u2013 $920 *Note: An $ 80 vig. went to the office pool\u2019s \u201cHouse\u201d (1K-$80)
\n\t\u2022\tM-Sun Food Comps – $50 (Buffet was great)
\n\t401(G) Expenses: <\/strong>
\n\t\u2022\tHotel: $207
\n\t\u2022\tFood not comp: $60 (Includes that dam Johnny Rocket burger)
\n\t\u2022\tDrinks not comp: $12
\n\t\u2022\tFuel: $30
\n\t\u2022\tCigars: $20
\n\t Lessons Learned:<\/strong> I learned that I must heed the advice of the Masters at GTC and maintain a cool temperament during my visit at the Casino. I have to learn to acquire that blue aura that Dom spoke of in class. In order to succeed in this endeavor I have to acquire a deep focus and concentration of the mission at hand otherwise I might as well just chuck them bones down the green carpet like my fellow c-fers. I don\u2019t know why I let the Johnny Rocket manager get to me or why when the pit boss moved me from my comfort position I was totally lost. I also learned that facing your fears head on is the only way to resolve inner conflict. What seemed to be an intimating table at the Fly casino is now a place of comfort. I will someday learn to deal with the mico-fiber challenge in the Breeze Casino, but that will be an advance GTC lesson. In all I feel this trip was quite successful in fulfilling its objectives. Til next trip report.
\n\t-Mr. PiP<\/strong><\/p>\n

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Posted by:<\/strong> HardNine on December 13, 2016, 1:34 pm<\/p>\n

Mr. PiP, great report,…..<\/p>\n

\tI do like that place, have been there a couple of times to meet up with the gang, but time consuming to get to, even when in NJ for work, which doesn’t appear to be happening anymore. I’ve only been there while one of the three have been open, but even one is easy to get lost in.<\/p>\n

\tOn the being moved back, that happens in several places to me. This is one of the reasons that I practice SL2 90% of the time. A) I play with others and they would take SL1, B) I shoot with a reach and have been asked to not cross into center action or across center line and asked to move left, C) I play where there are many 14′ tables and I can then take up SL1 on those tables with no adjustment. <\/p>\n

\tI know we need to zero in on a sweet spot, but once you’re getting the groove, I do feel the need to make a 1′ left\/right adjustment for various table conditions, lengths, crowding, etc. that put us a hair off of our sweet spots.<\/p>\n

\tKeep up the great practices, sessions, and most of all, finding that zone… it’s really nice when we can there…. a constant battle for me.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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Posted by:<\/strong> Dr Crapology on December 13, 2016, 2:36 pm<\/p>\n

A great report and so incredibly detailed. Thanks for taking the time to post. <\/p>\n

\twe must agree with Hard Nine and mentioning a casino name is not considered in the best interest for you, GTC and other members. We have been guilty in out early time with GTC but no longer use casino names. <\/p>\n

\tLook forward to seeing future posts and meeting up with you in the future.<\/p>\n

\tRose and Doc<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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Posted by:<\/strong> getagrip on December 13, 2016, 3:01 pm<\/p>\n

Nice report!<\/p>\n

\tLoved the fact that you thought about and learned from your mistakes. Shows that you listened in class! \ud83d\ude00
\n\tDiscipline is a constant battle for most of us but learning from your mistakes is key. Don’t be surprised if you sometimes have to relearn from your mistakes. That happens to all of us at times as well.<\/p>\n

\tLoved your line about your table being a "hen house". Funny stuff!<\/p>\n

\tMaybe you will consider opening a thread and posting all of your trip reports for 2017. That would be an interesting thread to follow and we all love trip reports! Thanks for posting!<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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Posted by:<\/strong> The WoW Man on December 13, 2016, 4:01 pm<\/p>\n

Well done Mr. PiP.
\n\tThanks for the post.<\/p>\n

\tCatch you later!<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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Posted by:<\/strong> Finisher on December 13, 2016, 6:14 pm<\/p>\n

I heard from many that it is easy to get lost there .
\n\tAlso as far as your bet for the dealers on line do you add odds as you get wins ? This is a way I get them into the game . Some times they are just thinking about some other things .
\n\tGood Rolling.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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